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è sempre la stessa storia! Vignetta disegnata da un giovanissimo Paolo alla fine degli anni '70 del secolo scorso, purtroppo è sempre attuale.

altre strip qui

il restauRo è terminato

il lungo e accurato restauro si è concluso

la Fiat 24 restaurata

il sondaggio

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contattaci

racconta qui la storia della TUA 124

il libro degli ospiti

il forum

il blog

scrivici

una 124 abbandonata in provincia di Roma

parlano di noi

i link preferiti

Mondopapera: il mondo delle papere

Il mercato delle papere: si vende tutto, ma non le papere

Vialevacances: l'appartamento per le vostre vacanze a Parigi e  in Corsica

la pagina dedicata alla 124 all'interno del sito degli amatori Alfa Romeo

in ungherese il sito degli amatori della Zigulì

un sito francese molto simpatico consacrato alla 126

il blog di Michele dedicato alla Fiat 131

il forum  dedicato alla mitica Fiat 500

PORTALICO DEL 600 Y CLASICOS D'ALMORADI

La mia AlfaSud di Luigi Cecconi

Calimero: una  passione di Paolo

Altair 19 - ordina qui i tuoibiglietti di prestigio

la collezione di Citroen ... in miniatura

la collezione di Citroen ... in miniatura

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NEW! il forum di discussione sulla 124 vai alla home page il nostro profilo e come contattarci la storia del modello 124 tutto quello che riguarda la passione di Paolo per la 124 tutte le fasi del restauro della 124 le altre 124 le ultime notizie e le curiosità

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Fiat 124 - FIRST DERIVATIVE AND FOREIGN SISTERS (part 1)

During the Spring 1966 an urgent issue to replace the old Fiat "1800/2100" was needed. This arduos task was felt due commercial strong demands. But is it not possible to plan an entire brand new car so quickly, so Ing. Dante Giacosa, Fiat engineering chief management's did that he can using available components.

With an admirable example of industrial sinergy he put together the stretched already extant Fiat 124 body, the old "1500" level ground and the 124 Sport Coupè 1808cc engine: the result was the Fiat 125 Sedan model, what will become one of the many Fiat's admiral, a fine car that, with all her variants, will come to the end of 1972.

his successful stop-gap will work so properly that will be very welcomed by people and, at the end of her career and sales, Fiat's management will be covered by a heap of complaints! She will be replaced by the same good Fiat 132. But, in our matter, the Fiat 125 is very important because we can see that:
Let's go to see why. We just have seen that in 1968, in Spain, began the production of the 124, identical in all respect to the Italian parent counterpart. Here also, at the start, both 1200 and 1400cc versions were identical to those Italian ones. The last was sporting the sole modify, in being fitted with squared frontal lights than the rounded known ones.

When, at the end of 1970 there was the first and bigger restyling of the entire 124 range models, Spanish 1200 lasted virtually identical to Italian counterparts; not so for the new 1400s, those being almost totally revised. They utilized the same previous body but with many improvements and refinements.

The entire tail end and lights were totally changed, the car being fitted with that of the 1972 Fiat 125 model's one. So the bumpers, switched to those of the 124 "Special" (T), the wheels and the interiors, always arranged with two rounded clocks including the very useful electronic rounds-counter ("cuentarevolucion electronico"); the dashboard's wheel was that like the 125 model also and, on the front side, the radiator grille was black.

Engines were all TC manner (two slide-valves cam shaft), ranging by the original 1438cc to even 2000cc races versions. Power were from 70 Bhp to 180. The so-called "1430E" version ("E" standing for "Especiàl") was exclusively Spanish-built and, along with another - more famous - draught horse, the 124D "Pamplona, these were the favourite Spanish versions. Spanish, altogether, preferred so much the "Special" version dashboard with rounded clocks, often fitted even on the more cheap 1200 ("LS") model.

Spanish were very skillful sporting racers and they performed very well in so many rallies. The same way was followed by Russians. In 1972 began to come off the Togliatti's car plant production lines the (VAZ) Lada 1500 (Zhigulì 21-03), an original Zhigulì body with a total new front radiator grille, fitted with four rounded light itself, very resembling Fiat's family feeling and, on the rear, an entire new tail & lights encircled by a chromate trimmer, like the 124 "Special T" one. The bumpers were the same of the 124 "Special" first serie, fitted with (awful and useless) beacks, the wheels were the same of the 21-01 model (and our 124), the interiors matched very much that of the 125 with race's 124 Sport Coupè rounded clocks and identical 125 steering wheel.

The Lada 1500 engine was the same of 21-01 model but growt to 1500cc and rating 70 Bhp. It had also the same upper single slide-valves cam shaft arrangement driven by a metal chain (the same hybrid of the early 131s); the cooling was provided by an electric fan. Suspensions are the same of the (modified) Soviet models.

Both Seat 1430E and Lada 1500, in having the same 124 (Sedan) body car, resembled very much their bigger derivative, the (Fiat) 125, so much that they were often mistaked for her, specially the last by foreign press, being called as "Russian-built Fiat 125".

The Lada 1500 is still in production at the Togliatti factory plant, now re-designed AvtoVaz, with minimum changes. At this stage, to avoid confusion, it must be known that the ONLY foreign 125 licence-built didn't were Spanish nor Russian: they were in fact Poland-built (the famous Polsky-Fiat 125p) and Argentinian-built, this last by Fiat-Concord (the local Fiat branch). Polsky-Fiat 125p & Fiat-Concord 125S were "125" in all respects.

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FIRST DERIVATIVE AND FOREIGN SISTERS Photo gallery - go to page
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1-Fiat 125 (1608cc, 90 Bhp, TC engine);

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2- Fiat 125 (1608cc, 90 Bhp, TC engine);

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3- Seat 1430E front view

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4- the new Seat 1430E secunda serie (Mk.II)

5- racing Seat 1430E: noteworthy the lights & tail of the late 1972 Fiat 125 "special" model

6: Seat 1430E interiors, the same of the Italian 124 "Special T" & Fiat 125 steering wheel

7: The Lada 1500: noteworthy both the 124 body & details and the 125's look

8:Lada 1500's tail, clearly resembling the Italian 124 "Special T"

9: Lada 1500 dashboard & interiors: they are Fiat 125 inspired

10:Side view of a spinners' wheels lacking example: once more evident the 125 resemblance

11: Very fine front shot of a brand new Lada 1500, sporting an unmistakable Fiat family feeling

12: lLada 1600/Zhigulì 21-06 today still in production at Togliatti's AvtoVaz factory plant